Laurie Baum

(SUSAN CARRINGTON): Today is Friday, August 8th, 2014. Good afternoon and welcome to Northbrook Voices, an oral history program sponsored by the Northbrook Historical Society and the Northbrook Public Library. My name is Susan Carrington, and I am pleased to welcome Laurie Baum, who has lived and worked in Northbrook since, has lived in Northbrook since 1963. Now, Laurie has lived in Northbrook. She went to high school here, and then she came back and lived with her husband and raised her children here. So, we’re very excited to have someone to have the perspective of not only growing up in Northbrook, but also raising your children in Northbrook. So, Laurie, we’re so glad to hear and glad to have you here. And the first thing I’d like for you to tell me is, what were your first impressions when you first moved into Northbrook? I guess you’re about eight years old or so?

(LAURIE BAUM): Yeah, we lived in a subdivision in Glenview, and my mom was going to have a third baby, which didn’t happen. So, it was the four of us, and we needed a larger house. So, from one suburban, you know, community to another. And so just the typical looking-for-the-house type thing and the, the, it was a weird, it was a weird remembrance. And it’s funny that you asked because we, you know, I’m eight years old, my sister Marlene is six, and my mom and my dad, and we pull into this house. It’s really, now it’s really a cool house, but I didn’t appreciate it at the time. And there was a puddle at the end of the driveway and I’m like, oh, I don’t think I like this house. I don’t know why, it’s, I’m eight. That’s all I can say.

(SC): Where was the house located?

(LB): Okay. So, the house that I grew up in from eighth grade until I went out to college and such, was 2132 Oak. And it’s, it’s an interesting house, Susan, because it’s, excuse me. Basically, it’s on the block of Oak and Cedar, and it’s in between. It’s closer to Cedar, but it’s, so it’s in between Western and Cedar, located. And this home was a beautiful three-bedroom, one-bath.  that at time it was white-painted brick, and it was English Tudor-style. And it was built like a fort. It was built in the 20s before the Depression, and it had, the walls were two bricks thick with space in between.

And, you know, you can appreciate the English Tudor-style with a brown trim and the slanted roofs, and the interior walls were plastered. We had a sunken two-step-down living room and a flagstone fireplace, a beam ceiling. Kitchen was small as it would have been, it was, I’m pretty sure it was built in the late 20s. 1920s. And one of the things that we know with the history of Northbrook is that we had, of course, the country had, was hit with the recession when the stock market crash of 1929. So, the building and all housing and businesses, everything stopped. Our country stopped as far as moving forward. But at this time, on Oak there and Cedar, the streets were in, and the curves and the sidewalks, and they had put in, I believe it was American elms. Elm trees, all along, down all the way down to Western, west on Western, I mean, west of Western and beyond.

So, the trees were there, and they kept growing. And, you know, like I said, it was a late 1920s. So, by the time I came along, we had these beautiful elm trees that were just crowning. And they’re still there, crowning over the, over the street.

(SC): I know that’s so beautiful, when there’s the canopy of the leaves and you go down the streets. There’s a, there’s a few neighborhoods, there’s that neighborhood, and there’s like the Sycamore Lane area that also has that too, which is really beautiful. And some of the other ones in east Northbrook. So, you started here in third grade, and what school did you go to?

(LB): So, we went to Greenbriar, and basically, it was about probably a mile walk, really pretty much walked all day, I mean, every day.

(SC): Was there, was there a bus available?

(LB): I think the bus, I don’t, I wasn’t aware of a bus. The only thing I do remember is because the, because we had the underpass, and the town was generally, as far as the layout of the town, was what it is now. So, we had the underpass, and so the kids that lived over off of Meadow and Kiest and Thornwood, because of the train tracks, I think they got to take a bus to school because of the safety issue. I vaguely remember that. Probably still the case, I guess. But I walked, and we walked, you know, we were, so it was, it was Walter Avenue, and then South is Maple, then Oak, and then Illinois. And for many years Illinois was a southern border of, of then Shermerville, now Northbrook. And also, consequently that was the border of where we would go to Greenbriar. So that was on the southern border of the Greenbriar School area. And Westmoor was not around yet.

(SC): Oh, I didn’t know that.

(LB): No, Westmoor wasn’t there. I remember, okay. So, I was in third grade in 1963, and then in 19, I guess 1967, we, it was just sixth and seventh grade at the junior high. So, I mean, I’m sorry, seventh and eighth grade. Sixth grade was at the Greenbriar. So, I was there until ‘67. And then around that time period is when they had a contest to see what people would like to name the new school that was going to be built roughly at the corner of Western and Cherry. And for a long, for many, many years before that, before we were born, Western was, the Western Avenue was the western border of the city, of the town, of the village. So, the contest winner was Westmoor, because there’s more west of Western. That’s how I remember it. Hopefully that was the way it was.

(SC): That’s so interesting, that that was, that’s how the name, that’s how it was named for Westmoor.

(LB): Yeah, well, there were a lot of there were a lot of contests for that. There was a contest to get the underpass, or citizens asking the citizens what they would like as far as improvements. The change of the name from Shermerville to Northbrook. In the 1920s that was, that was a contest. And that, that was the name that won from changing it from Shermerville to Northbrook. So, and anyway, but I do remember. So, living on Oak, there’s this beautiful home, you know. Hardwood floors and, you know, all of, you know, just an older home. That house apparently was there for a long time by itself as the Depression hit.

So afterwards, in the 40s, after pretty much probably World War II, I believe, in the 40s and 50s. There are split level homes in that block. There’s some ranches, and there’s now, there’s a lot of, you know, redos with the houses. But, and then on Illinois, that same builder had built some of the same kind of, you can see their similarities and some of the older homes there. And I also recall a couple of things worth living in that block, the Dutch elm disease came through, and it took a lot of trees over on Illinois Road. But we only lost one or two on Oak.

(SC): That’s because you had probably American Elm.

(LB): It was the same tree.

(SC): It was the same tree.

(LB): Yes. You could literally see them going down the way. Because of that Japanese beetle. It’s sad, but they’re still there right now. And then the other thing I recall as a young girl in the late 60s was we had a real terrible ice snowstorm, and the tree branches were just had a thick coat of ice on the branches, and they just bowed down to the, to the ground. But my sister and I put on our skates, and we just had a nice, lovely time skating down the street.

(SC): Oh, did you really?

(LB): Yes, just like it was a creek or something to skate on.

(SC): Did you ever, like, did you ever go skate? Because I know around that time they had skating over here by the, at the library area.

(LB): Well, yes. Good. Good point. So, walking to Greenbriar, we would go either Cedar, walk the back way, or go through and walk down Greenbriar Lane, kind of cut through some houses and go through. So, in the 60s girls wore skirts and dresses. It wasn’t until I was a freshman in 1969, in high school, was when we were allowed to start wearing blue jeans. And so I was, I liked to do some, I liked to climb. I was climbing trees, I was climbing the gym, the jungle gyms and such. And I remember my sister and I would walk to school together through the residential streets and the rain or the snow or whatever was going on. We always walked everywhere, and Greenbriar was like a nice hometown kind of a school.

It just was, you know, warm and fuzzy, and everyone was so loving and caring. Probably about 20 or so students in the classrooms, and there was no teacher’s aide at that time, like they have now. And we would leave the classroom really only for like gym class, art, music. And occasionally we would have like maybe a reading group or we just go to each other’s. So, I was there third grade, I believe there were probably like three third grade classrooms. 3 or 4. And that back edition was put on, where it split in the back. That was fairly new. It was there when I got there. But we, so I would wear like in the summertime, I would wear my skirt, and then I would have shorts on underneath.

So, of course, so I could do my trapeze and swinging and not have to worry about anything and just wear the shorts. And in the wintertime, then we had snow pants. So, several, you know, a couple of days a week when it was a perfect winter day and the ice rink was ready to go, Tower Rink was behind. It was in the backyard of Greenbriar, just on Cedar there, and the Village, the Village Hall was where it is now, except it was a one-story building. And then the ice rink was there, and then the creek, and then the railroad tracks. Right near the underpass there. So, it was a nice big ice rink, and my sister and I would walk to school in the morning with our ice skates, put them, hang them up on the locker, in our lockers, and then we would go over there afterwards and go in the warming house and lace up and skate around.

(SC): Oh, that’s wonderful.

(LB): And we would walk home afterwards and, you know, 5:00 or so, and that was our day.

(SC): Now, was the library here at that time? But it was much smaller.

(LB): No, the library was not there.

(SC): Oh, the library was not here.

(LB): No.

(SC): So that, that was all ice rink then.

(LB): It was. And I was mad.

(SC): Oh, when the library came.

(LB): I was a fifth-grade girl mad, fifth and sixth grade. Because they are taking away part of the Tower Rink for the, for the library, which is where we’re sitting right now.

(SC): I mentioned there were some kids that were real disappointed that used to go quite a bit.

(LB): And the other little trivia is that our famous speed skater, Anne Henning, was in my class.

(SC): No.

(LB): Yeah, yeah. I knew her in in grade school, and she was in whatever classes I had, and, you know, as a main classroom. And then we didn’t see her as much then in high school because she was practicing a lot. And then as we know later, she, I want to, I think it was Sarajevo. Japan in 1972 is when she went to the Olympics.

(SC): Yeah. I’m not sure.

(LB): Yeah. I’m thinking that’s right, but I could be wrong on the date. At any rate, and then it was, and Northbrook was dubbed the speed skating capital of the world, and it was, you know, Leah Poulos and a whole bunch of other kids were, came back. And it was a great time.

(SC): Yeah, it’s actually, since the last Olympics, it’s kind of renewed that title because we’ve had so many people from the ice rink and from the area.

(LB): Yeah. So, they, you know, we, we did ice skating in summer. 

(SC): Now, when you went to junior high, it was only seventh and eighth grade, you said, at that time. Okay. So, what year did you start? You graduated in 1973 from GBN, so that means you started in like ‘69, right?

(LB): Yes. So, I was, I was high school or junior high graduate in the spring of ‘69. And then I started at Glenbrook North in the fall of ‘69. So, I was in the late 60s, I was at the junior high.

(SC): Now, the late 60s was kind of a time when, you know, there was a lot going on because we had the issues with the civil rights and we had the issues with the Vietnam War and everything. How was that handled at GBN?

(LB): Oh, at the high school? I, there was, you know, everyone wore their hair long. The guys had long, thick hair coming down.

(SC): And girls were allowed to start wearing jeans. You didn’t have to wear, you were lucky because the school I was in didn’t start until ‘71.

(LB): Oh, really?

(SC): Yeah, we had to wear dresses.

(LB): It’s so weird how us girls would remember that.

(SC): Yeah, that was a big deal, being able to wear pants, especially during the winter.

(LB): It was a big deal.

(SC): It was. It was really good.

(LB): I think, I think I was a little young still. Our dad was good. He would like, when, when we had Neil Armstrong land on the moon in ‘60…

(SC): 9.

(LB): 9. Thank you. Our dad would say, okay, come to the TV. We’re going to sit down and watch this. This is important. He was very much into, not political so much, but just wanting to know what was out in the world and newsworthy. Yes. And he would make us girls, Marlene and I, you know, drop what we’re doing and go to the television because of course, that was way before any recorders were around and all the tape recorders and such. So, I remember that. And when we moved to Northbrook from Glenview, it was in the fall of ‘63. And in November, that’s when John F. Kennedy was shot. So, I distinctly remember, you know, boxes in the living room. And we had the TV on, and we were, you know, glued to the set and watching and such.

So that was terrible. But yes, there was a lot of, there was a lot of discussion, a lot of going on, what, you know, what was going on. The town. I don’t, you know, again, I was kind of on the young side, so I didn’t know anybody that was in the war. I didn’t have, I don’t have any other family members around. And so, and I didn’t, I didn’t know any older guys that, God forbid I would talk to an older guy, but at any rate. So, I didn’t know anyone in the war.

(SC): I didn’t know GBN had any demonstrations, the kids demonstrated or anything or.

(LB): Yeah, they probably could have. I think there were posters and various little activities going on, but there was really, not that I recall. I mean, there could have been, could have happened, but not that I recall as far as any big civil unrest in the community or anything. There was just general upset in this.

(SC): Yeah. So, you worked like after school then, and you were, tell us where you worked at.

(LB): Okay. So, I got a job in between sophomore and junior year in the summer at Sunset Foods. And Ron Bernardi was my boss.

(SC): Oh, my God, that’s so great.

(LB): It was. He was a great guy. He, of course, he still is. He’s a living legend, and he was just a sweet guy. So, I think I did the math one time. I think he was like, I think he was like 11, let’s see. Yeah, he’s about 11 years, 12 years older than I am. So, he would have been in his late 20s and when I was 15, working in the early 70s at the at the Northbrook Sunset Foods, at the other location where, it’s not there now, if, they crossed the street fairly recently. And I learned a lot about just, you know, customer service, of course. That’s what Sunset is known for now as a grocery store. And we, I also ended up dating a couple guys, which was fun, but I went out with a Loyola guy one time. It was interesting for me.

(SC): And he worked at Sunset?

(LB): He worked at Sunset. He was a bagger.

(SC): Okay. What did you do there? You were a cashier?

(LB): Yes, I was a cashier. And those, that was before the days of scanners. So, all the, all the products in the store had to be priced. And sometimes we did that when we weren’t busy. And so, I was a cashier basically, you know, standing in one place behind the register, punching the numbers and having it go through on the belt. And they had the, in the produce section, they had the people that were weighing the produce.

(SC): Oh, so they did that then. Okay. So, they’ve pretty much always done that. Okay.

(LB): Yes, they’ve done that. And they were well known then for their really good meat department. But you also learned so much about the world. You know, just, you know, everyone can remember their first job in high school and how much you learn. And you’re speaking and talking to the grown-ups, and you know, and this customer service emphasis really plays out even later in your life.

(SC): Oh, yeah. That’s great. Yeah. So now, was that the only grocery store around in town, or were there other grocery stores around that time?

(LB): I believe at the time, in the early 70s, it was A&P.

(SC): And where was that at?

(LB): Okay. So, you know where Walgreens, oh, so in the, in the commons here where Sunset Foods is, I think that was an A&P store. There was a Kroger store also. Maybe that was where Kroger was. So, we’re really basically across the street from that U-shaped strip mall that, where Sunset was. And then there was the, a Woolworth’s in that section, which is a variety store, an old-time variety store. And there was a fiber stationery store there, Fiber family.

(SC): So, when I moved here in the early 80s, there was a Jewel where Sunset is now. Is that where the Kroger was at?

(LB): No, that’s, I’m talking about the same, the same side that’s on, like right now. So, where the Dollar Tree is now, that’s where the other grocery store was. And when I, when I was back as a mom to Northbrook in the late 80s, early 90s, there was a store called V&S Variety that was there.

(SC): Yes, V&S Variety was there for a while, even up until like the late 80s. Because I can remember going over there buying, you know, like birthday present toys for my son and daughter when they went to birthdays. I really liked that store, and I missed it when it went away.

(LB): Yes, all of us moms were upset that the store was closing because we would buy the birthday gifts or the craft projects. I remember buying sweatshirts and painting them and stitching them and, you know, socks, all that.

(SC): Yes, yes, I know that was, it was a shame to kind of lose that store. Yeah. I mean, if you look at the history, specially the on Shermer Avenue, I mean Shermer, there’s like, you know, all the stories have changed, come and gone.

(LB): Oh, yeah.

(SC): Because I know that there were, there was an A&P in town. I’m not sure where that was at, though.

(LB): Now, what I’m thinking, I think the A&P is where like Yogen Fruz is now.

(SC): That’s what I, that’s what I thought.

(LB): In the hardware store there, the paint store, and the Landmark. Yeah.

(SC): So, one thing I want to talk about. This, I think is really interesting, is that when you, when you got married, you moved away for just about a year, and then you decided to come back to Northbrook. Did you come back to the same house?

(LB): Oh, okay. So, I met my husband, Chuck Baum, at the, we both went to the Village Presbyterian Church, our families. And but it’s a large church. And, you know, Chuck is three years older than I am. So, he was GBN high school class of 1970, and I didn’t know him in high school because he would have been a senior when I would have been a freshman. And you know how that would not work. But I knew I met his twin sister, Sharon. And I was in choir in high school, and I also sang in the Village Church choir, the adult choir, and had grown up through the Sunday school system and everything, and we were embedded there. And so, I knew Sharon had a, has a voice.

And so, she, there were just a couple of us high school kids that were singing in the Village Church adult choir, as well as at the high school. And so, she was singing in there in the group when I was there. So, I just knew her and, you know, in passing and that kind of thing. And that was it. And then flash forward then after graduating from ISU, and Chuck was gone and then came back. So, he’s living at home. He grew up on Hawthorne Lane, which is just south of Westmoor, off of Dundee Road. And they were building that subdivision there, a colonial. They moved here in 1961, and he was, you know, kind of grade school age.

He went to Crestwood School, and I think he was at Greenbriar one year also before the junior high. So, his mom was saying, you know, oh, there’s a nice post-college singles group over at the Village Church. Why don’t you go, Chuck? He’s like, yeah, Mom, right. I’m going to go. And then my mom was saying the same thing. You know, mothers are always right. So, that’s how we ended up meeting was the post-college single group, and we went cross-country skiing. It’s, you know, useless trivia.

(SC): So, I assume you got married at the Village Church?

(LB): Yes, we did in 1979. And I think Sharon was one of our, was one of my maid of honors. And but, so Chuck was, what was I going to say? He went to the high school, didn’t know him in the high school, knew Sharon, and then met him later. So, when I met Chuck, he was, he had been working with, had graduated from college. He got his degree in industrial engineering, and he was working at Sara Lee, the food store. It was, the food plant was right in Deerfield, there on Waukegan Road by Kates Drive. And there’s condominiums there now or houses, townhouses. So, he was doing time studies with the cake and, you know, all of that. And I met him and then, and he was temporarily living with his parents at 955 Hawthorne Lane. But he was building, he was having a townhouse built up in Vernon Hills in New Century Town, just west of the Hawthorne Mall, so Milwaukee Avenue in 60.

And those were being built. And it was an early concept of PUD, planned unit development, where you had like a little center, a little lake, and then you had things around it, townhouses, mostly, but single-family homes and apartments. So, when we married in the in the winter of ‘79, then I moved in there, and we were actually there until 1985. So, we, I worked a couple of years, and then we had started having children. So, we had both of our kids living in that townhouse. So, Katherine was born in 1983. She’s 31 now, and Eric was born in 1985. But I have to back up a quick little second and, not to spend much time on it, but when I was growing up on 2132 Oak. In 1971, my parents got divorced. And my mom was in real estate, and she had bought a house just down the block on Oak at 2200 block of Oak.

And she, we, my sister and my mom and I, moved into that house. So, then I was at that time, I was walking. Not only did I walk to the junior high from 2100 block of Oak, which is about a mile and a half, and we crossed the train tracks, and I rode my bike. Then we walked over to the high school too. We went down Penfold Avenue and such, and that’s what a lot of kids did that. They did a lot of, you know, we were walking around a lot and riding our bikes a lot in those days. And just Marlene and I walked uptown a lot too on Saturdays and such and enjoyed that. So, we, my mom was in real estate, and so she’d bought this house, and we fixed it up and moved in.

And that’s where I spent the rest of the time. And then she got remarried in 1974. And the three of us, plus her new husband, who was a great guy, we moved into Valley Lo in a townhouse there. And that’s where when I was in college and everything, that’s where I lived out of. So, in the meantime, Chuck is living, he’s moved into this townhouse, and I think like 1978, we had just met. And so, he was a bachelor, excuse me. And so, we got married in a couple of years later. So, we had both kids. Well, it was only a two-bedroom townhouse. So, in that time, in the meantime, then, while my mom had and her husband had moved to Valley Lo in Glenview, she was renting out this house.

And long story short, we ended up buying the house from her. And then we gutted it and added a second floor, and Eric was just like six months old when we started. So, I kind of came back to Northbrook then as a mom and with a family, like a totally different person, you know. And if you think about it, and I’ve realized over the years, that there’s a lot of people that have grown up in Northbrook that still live here. I would venture to say of all different age levels, of course, I don’t know everyone or anything like that as far as who’s here, but I would venture to say two to five thousand people of our community is probably, and right now we’re at what, 34,000 people in our population? When I, when we came to Northbrook, it was about 1963. I think the population was between 18 and 20 thousand. So, it’s just a great time to grow and to have you raise your kids in.

(SC): So, your kids, because they were living on Oak there, they also went to Greenbriar.

(LB): Yes. When they walked the Greenbriar. Of course, I walked with them because I didn’t like them walking on Walters. And they went to the Mustard Seed Nursery School, which was a great, got the Grace Lutheran Church right there at Briarwood and Walters. And they had a lovely time with that. And then they walked together to school.

(SC): Wait, there’s some of the same teachers there at Greenbriar and the junior high?

(LB): Yes. Okay, good, good, good little difference. So, when I was there, there was a teacher there named Miss Thorman, and she was probably, I had her for like reading class or something. And my sister ended up having her. But then my daughter Katherine got her. Oh. Oh, no. I’m sorry, I’m wrong with that. She was working there when my kids were there. She was still working there when my kids were there. My daughter Katherine ended up getting, of all the kids that, that of all the teachers that are, that we went through, Barbara Meyer was there, and she was a young teacher when I was there. She was my fourth-grade teacher, and then she had my Kath in third grade. So, Barbara Meyer was the one that actually had me and then my daughter.

(SC): Now, by the time your kids went to junior high, it was probably, they had added sixth grade by then.

(LB): Yes, I believe it was in the early 80s when they went up to the three grades there.

(SC): Yeah. So, and then they both graduated from GBN.

(LB): Yep. So, we have four alumni, GBN class of ’70, ’73, 2001, 2003. I know, small town story.

(SC): I know. That’s wonderful. So, kind of tell me. We only have about three or four more minutes. So, tell me some of the differences that you saw as being a mother as opposed to being a child.

(LB): Okay. Well, I think that I felt pretty safe here in Northbrook and running around and walking uptown and going to the shops and the stores and playing, and the, I don’t know if the kids do that so much as they did then. No, I was more watchful as a mom than my mom was. Of course, there wasn’t as many cars and people around, so there was a lot more, people were out-and-about more often, and it was just on the cusp of air conditioning. I mean, if, I had this older home and we just had a window unit, so we were outside more playing and climbing trees and doing more physical work like that. Physical play.

(SC): Oh, yeah. The rule was you had to come in when the streetlights went on.

(LB): Yeah, yeah, that was kind of like what it was for us.

(SC): You had to come in with the street lights went on. And I know that was so true. And the kids were just outside after school all the time.

(LB): Playing. Not as many, not as much structured like sports and activities. Definitely not. I was a little Brownie. I was a Brownie leader for my daughter. I had a great time doing that at Greenbriar, lived over Greenbrier as a parent, lived over there volunteering. I was on the board for the what, seven years, eight years that I, that my kids were there. I went pretty much every board meeting and did all sorts of different jobs within the PTA. One of the things that I remember was when my, in the 60s, there was the PTA, and the teachers put together a variety show called The Greenbriar Follies. And it was a song and dance. And the teachers were up there in their costume dancing away, and us kids would watch. And we did laugh because to see your teacher in that position, you know.

So, that was a difference. I don’t think we have that anymore. I’m glad because I was on PTA then, and so, I was very involved. I was much more involved in the school and everything than my mom was. She was working part-time and such at the time, and I was over there at that school constantly and enjoyed it with my kids. And they know, they’ve learned a lot more scholastically sooner than we did. I was asking Kathy the other day, you know, what does she remember about Greenbriar days? She goes, Mom, in fifth grade, we dissected a sheep’s eye, and when the teacher wasn’t looking, we’d be throwing the eye across the room to each other, and it was gross and smelly and then in junior high, we dissected a frog. And I’m like, I don’t. We didn’t dissect frogs. We did worms and frogs freshman year in high school, you know, so every generation learns sooner and sooner.

(SC): I’d have to agree with you because I looked at some of my kids, I remember taking chemistry in high school, and I looked at their chemistry book. And, I mean, it was like worlds apart. You know? So yeah, I agree with you. It’s like more of a, you know, GBN is really becoming kind of a bit of a pre-college level. So, tell me what you think about the chances. And I know you that your one daughter who lives in Texas and your son lives in the city, but what how do you think it is now for having being able to have your children come back and live in Northbrook?

(LB): Oh, if they were to come back here and live, I would love it.

(SC): Would you love it? Do you think that, a lot of people have said that one of the biggest problems, they don’t think that they could afford it. Well, not your children in particular, but, you know, in general.

(LB): Yeah. It’s expensive to live here.

(SC): I think that’s one of the, a lot of people have said it’s kind of expensive. We don’t really have those starter homes.

(LB): The starter homes here are small compared to the rest of the country at the same price. They’re little ranches. And the women, I find, the moms and the women of young families, they have to work at some. For the most part, I think I would, I don’t know the statistics exactly, but I would say more than around 75% people are probably working two-income families just to keep, you know, their, themselves in Northbrook. I want them to get what they want as far as you know, vacations and such like that. Yeah.

(SC): Well, I want to thank you very much. This has been wonderful talking to you. And I want to thank you very, very much for participating in Northbrook Voices. Your memories of life in Northbrook will add a unique and personal perspective about the history of our village. Thank you, Laurie.

(LB): You’re very welcome. Thank you.